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Pigeon
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The Political CompassPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:53 pm    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


A little six-page web quiz... easy, fun, and unusually for such things, competently coded.

Where do you stand on the Political Compass?

As with all these things some of the questions are a whole debate in themselves, but it suffers less from that problem than many of them do.

My own views, when separated from the mess of British party politics, tend to be an unholy mixture of right and left. This thing reckons I average out to be indistinguishable from Gandhi... which is somewhat surprising but I'm not too unhappy about it Smile
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Grendel



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The Political CompassPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:30 pm    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


Very interesting test, Pigeon. This are my results.

Not too shocking. For me at least.

Edit: But they do seem shocking, when compared to US Elections 2008 candidates positions and Europe's national governments. My own country (Spain) is really far apart from where I stand. Turns out I'm a dangerous leftist. Smile
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The Political CompassPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:04 pm    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


Just tried it, interesting, came out authoritarian left, a bit like Stalin! Tongue Wry
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The Political CompassPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:38 am    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


mr angry wrote:
came out authoritarian left, a bit like Stalin! Tongue Wry


Noooooooo!!!!!!!!!! Hehe
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Herve



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The Political CompassPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:19 pm    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


I did this while sneaking about prior to joining, and am happy to report that I am a leftist social anarchist, right where I thought I might be.
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The Political CompassPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 2:29 am    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


im am an anarcist but i have to deal with a screwed system hope you like your gov i personaly dont like mine WAY TO MUCH TAXS
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The Political CompassPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 2:40 am    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


We've got an election on Friday so with any luck the current government will be out on its ear and we'll have the Conservatives instead. Here's hoping...

And also hoping that we don't end up with the Conservatives having bad luck and getting the Lib Dems, who were coming second in the last poll I saw... because if we do anyone who has a car might just as well go and shoot themselves.
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The Political CompassPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 2:44 am    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


good luck maybe tax breaks will happen because of that
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The Political CompassPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 2:45 am    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


nice to see our contreparts in britian share my and many other people like me in the usa opions
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The Political CompassPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 3:04 am    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


seems your actually a anti gov envirmentlist by the chart(doesnt make sense)
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Grendel: Turns out I'm a dangerous leftist.

no your not really a leftist unless you suport big gov but who knows
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The Political CompassPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:33 am    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


All I have to say is that, while I am not, and will never be a supporter of this party, Communism in theory is a brilliant idea. Yet the execution of it in the past and present is horrible.
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The Political CompassPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:39 am    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


Turns out I AM a supporter for big government. Big government done right, like they do in Sweden, Finland and Norway, for example.

Yes, those people pay around 52% of their income in taxes. So what? EVERYTHING is free for them in medical care (from dental to aesthetic medicine), for example, EVERYTHING is free for them in education, government generously supports you if you're unemployed, when you're young and want to rent a flat, and so on and so on.

Big government, and big taxes done right are a good system IMHO. Your american position of "why should I have to pay for YOUR illnes, if I'm not ill?" or "why should I have to pay for YOUR unemployement, If I have a job?" is not self-reliant, individualistic, entrepenurial and all those pretty words you (as a people) like to embellish the ugly truth with: it's simply a really egotistical standing.

It's really a long and complicated debate worthy of a lot of time and effort. Here in Spain, in my autonomia (kind of an USA State) of Madrid, governs a right-wing neocon old hag, not unlike Margaret Thatcher. Although ours has not (yet) caused a phony war when her standing on the polls is low... but I digress. She's quietly dismantling the social security health system, and making hospitals be run by private companies instead of public government. And this scares me, because private companies only care about one thing, and one thing only: benefits. They'll cut costs, they'll fire people, they'll cut corners, everything only with benefits in mind; then the system will deteriorate and guess who'll be the affected people? The users. All the users of a health system going down the drain 'cause government has given control to private companies.

I really don't understand the American's resistance to government run institutions. After all, your firefighters, cops, and armed forces are governmental, public. Imagine, if you can, that your house is on fire and you call Smokey's Firefighters, who tell you that saving your house is gonna cost you a thousand dollars. Imagine you're being assaulted, call 911 and Bronson security informs you that it'll cost you a hundred to send a patrol. Imagine the Samoans invade California and Blackhawk kindly informs the Governator that is not opposing any resistance and it's not going to defend California because the State hasn't made the last five payments.

Crazy, isn't it?

They why you see as normal the case of a guy who cuts two fingers with a saw, goes to the hospital with his amputated fingers on ice and they tell him that reattaching each finger is gonna cost him 12 hundred dollars? And when he can't pay, his fingers goes to the trash bin and he remains amputated forever. Not to mention cancer cases, chronical illness cases and so on and so on. Don't even get me started on HMOs.
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The Political CompassPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:34 pm    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


so the website is complete we have an anarchist and a comunist (no offnese Grendel) but united because of our love for lucy (you all know it) by the way Grendel what are the down sides of big goverment in your oppion
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The Political CompassPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 5:05 am    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


I'm not offended to be called a Communist for two reasons: I consider almost any political option to be valid, and I'm not a Communist. Where's McCarthy?

Those are the fallacies that the far-righters have been embedding on your conscience in the USA since the fifties: socialism is communism (is not), big government is communism (is not), and proposers of any of those options are anti-american (are not).

But anyway, of course the downside of big government are bureaucracy and corruption. The first one is an inevitable side effect which can be greatly improved thanks to our new communication technologies. For example, the way my father did his taxes and the way I do them are worlds apart: while he had to spend days recollecting data and documents to prove his income and spendings of the fiscal year, and the spend an entire morning at a Ministerio de Hacienda (our IRS) building presenting that data and praying he had done it all right, because if something was missing he had to come back; I receive on my mail a draft of my taxes made by our IRS, which I only have to check to see if it's right. If it's not, I can correct it via internet or telephone. Just like that.

The other side-effect, corruption, is to be fought at all levels, with a passion. It's the only way. I don't care if the corrupt is a high-level politician getting his pockets full of misplaced funds, or is simply my neighbor cheating the government about a disability or cheating on his taxes. Corruption is something that cannot be tolerated, in any case. Ask the Russians where big government and rampant corruption leave you.

And of course, we all love Lucy. Where's Ricky Ricardo?
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The Political CompassPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:42 pm    Subject: The Political Compass Reply with quote


i got somthing that will p*ss off the sopporters of big gov (pigeon pls allow this) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psp8gJxxfdQ&feature=related hope you find out about commies
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