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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:33 pm    Subject: *Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!* Reply with quote


snowflake wrote:
Mad This site isn't doing an "official" promotion for Lucy Pinder but it does it anyway, by independant way certainly!


That's the idea Thumb Up!

snowflake wrote:
So... Idea why couldn't we negotiate 5 interesting questions to Lucy, if only a month instead of a week?!
Why wouldn't they accept?


RockyMoney wrote:
I know... Lets ask Lucy on Twitter! Idea (Fat chance of a reply unfortunately) Ranting


I think these two are related...

Lucy used to give useful answers on twitter, and was remarkably conversational on it... for the first two or three months...

Then all of a sudden she stopped being chatty, she stopped giving useful answers, she stopped posting interesting stuff like what she thought about Question Time... literally overnight. One day she was a vivacious real person on twitter, the next day she switched off all vestige of personality and turned into a plastic robo-tweeter, and that's how it's been ever since.

I can only conclude that someone - another of the all-too-plentiful assholes who surround Lucy and whose counterproductive, damaging advice she so mistakenly trusts - quite possibly GM - got on her case and made her stop doing it. "Gosh, can't have her actually being friendly to fans, she might actually make some real friends who we haven't vetted and then we'd start losing control over her". Mad

Well, it's either that or it's Lucy went to bed one night as normal and woke up the next day as an unsociable cow, which obviously isn't true Smile

Lucy... if you happen to read this... Shout TELL THEM TO GET STUFFED Big Grin
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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:44 am    Subject: *Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!* Reply with quote


Actually I think the best thing to do is not use social networking sites at all. (Not just because I think they are just for sad people who need a life for real Hehe )

No the point is that they will only damage your career and not help it. The media for one love to watch people twitter feeds and such. As they can get so many stories from them without putting in the man hours following them around. We all know how much the media like to make stories too. This all goes to influencing peoples opinions on you. Even if that story has been twisted from something you didn't actually mean or said as they say in the heat of the moment.

As for Laid coming back. I seriously think that it will be on a smaller budget so Lucy will be priced out of this too.
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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:31 pm    Subject: *Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!* Reply with quote


Except with Lucy it's a bit different Hehe The one time the media did pick up on her twitter feed (about this time last year) it was a good story - it was about Lucy attacking that awful stereotype of models we are all too aware of and the idiots who believe in it. Thumb Up!

I don't think instructing her to not do that and instead present herself in a false manner which promotes that stereotype - which is what appeared to happen - can be considered anything other than counterproductive...

I think also that at the time the media were watching Lucy's twitter closely because it was new and they didn't know what to expect. I think they have now long worked out that whether or not she posts anything interesting, she's certainly never going to post anything "gossip-worthy", and have lost interest, realising that they're more likely to get a "story" out of, well, out of the minority of models who do do "gossipable" things, or for that matter the TOWIE-et-al lot...

As for Laid, as far as I can make out Lucy's involvement is the one feature I would pick as most likely to remain the same when it returns Big Smile (well, apart from football reports Hehe)
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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:57 pm    Subject: *Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!* Reply with quote


At the begining it was cool, but next the shield, protector of her commercial image, came on front of her... The human perception of what is Lucy Pinder stay still very limited. Of what have they fear at the end? Shrug The image she gives isn't hers and doesn't belong to her... is she only a vector, a model, AN OBJECT?! Yikes! OBJECT! OBJECT! ... Yikes!
Oops sorry i don't know what happens to me these times. Yes and hum... then, no Pigeon, don't you think tw***er is already a means of promotion obsolete in precise point of view "image", because she sinked in the "people" thing, controled feed for thirsty people of strass & glitters to stick in their unreal life wich they built with social networks. It's other words to say what Poggy meant, i think.
This is a real market, but far from the good intention to promote a graceful, talented, intelligent, feminine image of sweet Lucy. Any marks paid any celebrities to put some ads on their tw***er board. Like in the LP's f***book page, and the old official forum we can only read any cold advertising messages from the AVATAR of Lucy. Ok on Tw***er, it's really her but, between us: 4 words a days, 2 ;-) an another day, it need to be a mad fan or a great voyeur to like following this! Wry

Even if Lucy writes some different things than gossip models who want to be remarked (and i don't want go and verify it anyway), well, in fact, it would be more eloquent for me when she doesn't write anything whereas she can do it. Here there would be the real difference with other, isn'it? Cloud 9 Is it possible she could be tired to play that game some days and this explains the differences of her "twittic" moods. This is a new & attractive hypothesis! Mmmh? Wink
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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:30 pm    Subject: *Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!* Reply with quote


I agree with Pigeon, if Lucy isn't returning when Laid re-launches then the site has lost it's USP. Would anyone HERE visit the site if Lucy didnt have anything to do with it? I think you know what my answer is! Hehe
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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:17 pm    Subject: *Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!* Reply with quote


In fact i was speaking about Tw***er. Of course, it would be great that she returns on Laids if the site is reborn (a day). It was not really perfect, but it was perhaps one of the best means of expression to perceive. Yes
But all this badly masterized circus!... every all that is pink, sweet and bright for her but every all that is not in reality very serious, solid and pro around her! Pfff! Like a lot of other things ... and i start despairing not to see a frank light which would guide her near somewhere more ... natural. Sad
Merde! How do you want she can evolve? It's not easy to ear maybe for her but when we abord this theme since almost 3 years, we feel and speak about her like she was a child, manipulated by her own toys, it's incredible!! Shrug

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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:46 am    Subject: *Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!* Reply with quote


snowflake wrote:

Oops sorry i don't know what happens to me these times. Yes and hum... then, no Pigeon, don't you think tw***er is already a means of promotion obsolete in precise point of view "image", because she sinked in the "people" thing, controled feed for thirsty people of strass & glitters to stick in their unreal life wich they built with social networks. It's other words to say what Poggy meant, i think.


Actually it's not what I meant. I meant it as exactly as I said it. Social Networking sites are for people without real lives. People who's lives are that small or self centered that they have to tell you every little detail to make it look good. We have to remember who and why Facebook was created. It was created by a guy so people could socialise with friends at another college. In other words tell them how bland there lives was that they had to share it with his old friends miles away IMO. Personally if they was that good of friends you'd phone them or webcam link them. Not put it on a board for all to see.

I had a facebook account for a second. There was people posting thing as stupid as "just going to the toilet. Be back soon" as if anyone wanted to know that. Then you've people requesting to be your friend just because you are a friend of their friend. This is before I go into how dumb it is to log on to a site telling everyone your not at home. So your house is empty and it's free to be robbed. Then it also can be the destroyer of relationships. As the most innocent of picture can become something it's not.

I've never been on Twitter and looking at what people do it. Never will be. This again is just set up for people to destroy their lives one way or another. People who are screaming out for attention. I mean you've only got to look at some of the more famous regular uses of Twitter. People like Rooney, Ferdinand, Katie Price. These are people who just constantly scream out look at me, look at me.

So if Lucy decides to spurn these type of sites, it's all good in my book. As they provide nothing but misery.
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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:04 am    Subject: *Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!* Reply with quote


good topic more plz

but rooney rio etc etc i think get asked what they thinking etc etc that twitter facebook gives them a relesh (sp),

wouldnt want our pm on there lol
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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:48 am    Subject: *Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!* Reply with quote


Poggy, be sure i think the same like you. Yes I "closed" my F***book acount since a long time and never used Tw***er. What i meant for "people" thing, it is as for celebrities as for unknowns. Everybody is in the same bath and want to feel interessant, more than in real life. In clear, instead of being a great means for exchanging information ( i.e. arab revolutions), well, social networks make their money on the back of emotional poverty of people. Yuck And celebrate Lucy Pinder, by using Tw***er personnaly, participates to the conditionning of this buisness, cos she could better too send sms, phone, e-mail, to her real friends or visit them if she wants. But no. She prefers that everybody can see her messages and participates like she was their friends. Headache So is she in the same case of all these people, or does she do that for the interest of her image?
With the Laid column, we haven't to feel this sort of faintness at least. She was paid (i suppose) to answer five questions, she done it her better and nobody wondered except for the choice of question! Hehe
It's difficult to understand precisily each other: differences of culture, vocabulary, languages, points of view,... but this stays a real pleesure to exchange! Thumb Up!
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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:32 pm    Subject: *Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!* Reply with quote


It depends how you use them really... after all you don't have to post "I'm going to the toilet" nor associate with people who do Smile (Post about it, that is Hehe) I mainly use them for...

- Promotion of Lucy's works in connection with this site
- For news - people tend to update them more often than they do blogs or websites
- For chatting rubbish with people Smile - much like a forum, really Smile
- For private communication with people such as those who have chronically unreliable email or who just prefer the private message systems to normal email

Granted the promotional aspect is well overstated... click-through rates, especially for facebook, are appallingly low - people just don't want to click anything that takes them off the site. Those who bang on evangelistically about the "value of social media", beating the drum of "your business is nothing without facebook", are simply deluded by the social media sites' own propaganda; being able to observe and analyse the results first hand as a website operator makes it clear how little truth there is in it. And for sure they mostly reach the brainless and unimportant rather than those who matter. But they don't cost anything, so there's no harm in it either Smile
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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:06 am    Subject: *Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!* Reply with quote


But Pigeon you've just the nail on the head.

If you are going to promote things properly. You would actually use your dedicated site for it. A site that anyone in the world can see. Not some dumb networking site that only the members of it could see. Even then those members have to be friends or followers. Which means they are buying into all the other rubbish that comes with such as Facebook. The weak security, the telling the world your not at home if you log in of your laptop, tablet, phone from somewhere. This is before you go into the millions of fake accounts and such on them. I'm not just talking about the fake celeb accounts here. What about the poor kids that are fooled by these adults pretending they are kids. I could for a age with this. So is there harm in it?

If the person you was going to talk too was that good a contact. You wouldn't need a Facebook, Twitter to talk to them. Because at least if you did have such as a MSN or Yahoo email for them. You also have their messenger contact. Which is a lot more private than networking sites. As only people you know and trust would have this.

The main problem with them and always will be. They are designed for people who are desparate to be liked. The ones who feel the need for attention. This is why the media loves them nd is always quoting from them. As just so many don't realise what they can say in the het of a moment or just how misleading that comment could be they just posted.
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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:02 pm    Subject: *Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!* Reply with quote


Poggy wrote:
But Pigeon you've just the nail on the head.

If you are going to promote things properly. You would actually use your dedicated site for it. A site that anyone in the world can see. Not some dumb networking site that only the members of it could see. Even then those members have to be friends or followers.


Oh, promotional accounts on FB and twitter can be viewed by anyone. But what you say is still de facto more or less true, because while the people who aren't members can still see it, they're a lot less likely to bother than those who are Smile

I'm not disputing for a moment that a dedicated site is better, I have said that myself many times here and elsewhere Smile I'm just saying that while they certainly fall way short of the grandiose claims made by their enthusiasts, FB and twitter can have some positive value if they are used properly - ie. for posting news and information instead of dumb stuff about going to the loo Smile But that value is still small, and it's only worth using them at all because they don't cost anything Smile

Poggy wrote:
If the person you was going to talk too was that good a contact. You wouldn't need a Facebook, Twitter to talk to them. Because at least if you did have such as a MSN or Yahoo email for them.


Ah, the particular example I'm thinking of the email is provided through her website by a dedicated SMTP services provider... She contacted me asking for help with some HTML coding, but my replies to her emails never got through (dropped on the floor by said SMTP provider being rubbish) so we had to use facebook instead Roll Eyes

Poggy wrote:
The main problem with them and always will be. They are designed for people who are desparate to be liked....


....and are not designed with the needs of business promotion in mind. Particularly facebook. A business page on facebook is a very fragile asset - it can be arbitrarily zapped by FB at any time with neither warning nor explanation, or it can be easily hijacked by a disgruntled employee because FB refuse to provide a two-tier admin access system... there's nothing you can do yourself to get it back, and FB completely ignore any requests for help, even from large organisations. Anyone who places reliance on a business page on FB is off their nut Smile
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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:17 am    Subject: no topless videos anymore :( Reply with quote


I have a question why doesnt lucy appear topless in recent videos?? although shes topless in photos!?
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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:47 am    Subject: *Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!* Reply with quote


Ah... too many words? Hehe That was in a way part of the foundation of the recent discussions Smile

It's because Lucy mistakenly believes that people will compensate for the lack by buying videos off the mobile site. Whereas in reality they will compensate by looking at free topless videos of other models on the Nuts site, reduce their interest in Lucy, and be even less likely to pay for the mobile site. Same reason as why Nuts post big galleries of pics not used in the magazine for other models but don't do it for Lucy any more.


....Anyway, to get back to the subject of Laid...

The relaunched version is going to be big... and it IS going to feature Lucy's column Thumb Up!

Which I am sure is a cause for much rejoicing Big Grin
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*Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!*Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:54 am    Subject: *Lucy Pinder Laid.co.uk questions!* Reply with quote


Woohoo!
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