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TheFodderLover



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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:56 pm    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


Think most are missing the point.

It's not an issue whether Lucy has chosen to retire - not a problem. It's just the way it has been handled; no communication, no "final" shoot -absolutely nothing.
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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:43 pm    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


TheFodderLover wrote:
Think most are missing the point.

It's not an issue whether Lucy has chosen to retire - not a problem. It's just the way it has been handled; no communication, no "final" shoot -absolutely nothing.


I agree. Lucy will be 31 this month and was modeling since she was 19. Her career as a model lasted much longer than most others and we should be happy about that but DAMMIT she should say something when calling it a day and not retiring the way she did!

A simple "I will be retiring as a glamor model soon and start an acting career, I would like to thank my fans for all the support over the years" or something like that would have been really nice.
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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:00 am    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


Melcin114 wrote:
TheFodderLover wrote:
Think most are missing the point.

It's not an issue whether Lucy has chosen to retire - not a problem. It's just the way it has been handled; no communication, no "final" shoot -absolutely nothing.


I agree. Lucy will be 31 this month and was modeling since she was 19. Her career as a model lasted much longer than most others and we should be happy about that but DAMMIT she should say something when calling it a day and not retiring the way she did!
A simple "I will be retiring as a glamor model soon and start an acting career, I would like to thank my fans for all the support over the years" or something like that would have been really nice.


now, that's what I'm talking about!!
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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:04 pm    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


Cry Sad Thumb Down Well the lack of pics and news is grim but as everyone is saying its bad for the fans that she has retired but it wud av been nice to say goodbye but then she never has been big on communicating with her fans her website was p*ss poor as well
so farewell Lucy and farewell to this site and a huge thanks to the pigeon for his sterling efforts in keeping this site alive in the facevof adversity
over and out
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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:32 pm    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


hello,
i'm french and i dont understand very well english, what happen with lucy ?
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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:00 am    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


sshady93 wrote:
hello,
i'm french and i dont understand very well english, what happen with lucy ?


rien ne est arrivé à Lucy, elle est très bien. tout ce que nous essayons de dire, ce est qu'elle ne est pas vraiment en contact. et elle pourrait vouloir se retirer. et combien on va me manquer.
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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:14 am    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


2013arthus wrote:
sshady93 wrote:
hello,
i'm french and i dont understand very well english, what happen with lucy ?


rien ne est arrivé à Lucy, elle est très bien. tout ce que nous essayons de dire, ce est qu'elle ne est pas vraiment en contact. et elle pourrait vouloir se retirer. et combien on va me manquer.

ohh thank you very mouch for your french lool
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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:48 am    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


Pinderlust wrote:
...Lucy appears to have such a lack of momentum with both acting and modelling. I'm concerned that she may have priced herself out of the market or burnt too many bridges.


I think this pretty much covers it. Lack of momentum and mismanagement. Nearly all of Lucy's career has been dependent on the Daily Star and Nuts handing her regular work on a plate, with anything outside that coming as a bonus. With the Daily Star having dropped her and then a few years later Nuts going down the tubes, any kind of regular work has dried up.

Of course there are plenty of other models who (a) used to appear frequently in the Daily Star and don't any more, and (b) used to appear frequently in Nuts and have been left in the lurch by its demise. But they have kept going by various means, including by moving to or increasing their involvement with the alternatives - ie. the Sun and Zoo. If these less popular models can keep going then certainly Lucy, as the top of the class, can. But unlike the majority of her career to date, it will not happen without at least a modicum of effort.

And that seems to me the nub of the problem. Girl Management can't be bothered to make the effort to promote Lucy and put her forward. As Neon before them also couldn't be bothered. Contrast with her first year or so when IMM did make the effort and she appeared in all sorts of places. If it was possible back then when she was new and little known, it is far more possible now - if only her lazy-ass management would pull their thumbs out of their bums. Similarly Lucy herself doesn't seem to be making any effort.

Same with the acting. She has had a couple of minor parts handed to her on a plate because Jonathan Sothcott is mates with Adam Sutherland, but Sothcott seems to be heading in a direction now that probably means fewer such parts are available, and to obtain anything more requires effort which is not forthcoming.

Pricing herself out of the market is again something that has been of increasing concern for some years and yet remained unaddressed by management.

My major concern is that it all seems to have petered out without Lucy having put enough together from it to gain the freedom to live the rest of her life with such a lack of effort. The situation is not irretrievable - yet - but it will be before too much longer, as Lucy's name in glamour modelling is by far her most significant asset. Since she is only about a quarter of the way through the period of her life between school and pension, the failure of her and of those who are paid to promote her to put in a little effort now will cost her a heck of a lot more effort in the future, and the whole business seems most irreponsibly shortsighted.
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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:26 pm    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


I was trying to come with something to add to what P just wrote, but it seems as though he managed to get everything covered.

I, having only followed Lucy for roughly 2 years, am disappointed to see her go out like this when she clearly has the looks and goods to keep going for another few years. While some instances indicate that she does possess a good head on her shoulders, her flawed, almost ignorant view of her career, the industry in general, and the opportunities that are within short reach for her to take advantage of, makes me believe otherwise.

I mean if she could just be bothered to actually interact with her fans a couple times a week, she probably would have a better grasp of it all.

Let's take compare her to Jodie Gasson, whom I've also been following for about the same time as Lucy.

For starters, her website contains the kind of content that almost everyone would want from Lucy, but never got, and now, almost definitely never will.
There's active teasing, undressing, eye contact, and BTS of different kinds. This applies to both pictures and videos.
New content is posted more frequently and isn't nearly as dull as Juicy Lucy's.
All in all the ultimate site for a glamour model fan. Jodie has stated on several occasions that she will never put her genitalia on display. So fans, while they wouldn't be against the unlikely event that she actually shows off more than she normally does, won't be waiting for it in vain. The same cannot unfortunately be said about Lucy, who's been hinting at doing full frontal for years, but never actually delivered.

Websites and the like aside, whenever I've tried to tweet Lucy, she has never ever responded, and it appears like she never retweets anybody, unless it's a close friend or some charity she supports, or maybe a close friend.
Now, the first time I tweeted Jodie, I got a response almost immediately, which I frankly appreciated. I thought this would be a one times occurrence, but nope. Same thing every other time I've done so, I even managed to have brief conversations with her. She's really down to earth and is probably my current favourite glamour model. It's really a shame she retired, which brings me to the next point.

Lucy still hasn't let it spill whether she's done or not, all we have are the obvious clues from various sources. For example, Wikipedia list her as a "glamour model turned actress". So it's basically safe to assume she's gone for good, or well, for the time being. When she isn't getting any acting roles she might look into returning, by which time it may or may not be too late. Her reputation will probably have suffered quite a lot.

I'm getting off topic, Jodie has been alerting her followers for months that she will be quitting to get into med school/nursery. While this is disappointing, the way she's gone about it is really good. She has been shooting like there's no tomorrow and her site will have new content coming out for the next year and beyond. She's a great professional, in my opinion, anyway.

Last thing, I hope Lucy comes to her senses before it's too late.
That will be all.
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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:56 pm    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


Well said lolsmasher, Lucy seems that she doesn't know what she wants to do with her career. In an interview in Daily Star or Loaded sometime in 2006 (I can't remember which one exactly but I know its one of those two, if someone can post a link or scan that would be nice) I really remember her saying that she will never do a fully topless shoot. About a year later for Nuts she goes *gasp* full topless. She then says that she went topless for financial reasons. Trust me she did.

She then said she will never go full nude and later on she said she will do full nude for a lot of ..........wait for it..........MONEY! Her quote was "I won't lie, for alot of money I will do full nude" or something like that.

She seems to be only in it for the money because she don't interact with her fans every now and then. I don't think she even checks the official forum and facebook page.

She really should of interact with her fans and members of the website and when she does she shouldn't get too personal with her fans meaning what goes on in her family or if she is still in a relationship with that Daniel carpenter guy or someone else. A "went to the doctor/dentist today", "what do you think of my last photo-shoot?" or "I will be making a so-and-so appearance/going to some event" a few times a week would have been great.

On her website she could have worked with the same photographer(s) on Nuts and Loaded and even if she don't want to do tease videos there still could have been full HD behind the scene videos that is more that a few minutes long but as we know, that won't be happening.

As successful as Lucy is, her long career was badly managed by her team and herself.
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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:43 pm    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


lolsmasher wrote:
While some instances indicate that she does possess a good head on her shoulders, her flawed, almost ignorant view of her career, the industry in general, and the opportunities that are within short reach for her to take advantage of, makes me believe otherwise.


This is very true, and I consider it significant that the balance is not constant with time: "good head on her shoulders" used to be the overriding characteristic, but over the last few years "flawed, almost ignorant" has come to submerge it. (I used to defend Lucy to the hilt, but now I find myself unable to do so without seeming ridiculous.) I find this very sad. I also find it disturbing, because the natural course of events is of course for someone to become more clued up, not less, as time goes on, and the conclusion that such degeneration is far more likely to be due to some external influence than to something internal like premature senility is not pleasant.

lolsmasher wrote:
For example, Wikipedia list her as a "glamour model turned actress". So it's basically safe to assume she's gone for good, or well, for the time being.


Ah, I wouldn't read too much into that. One of the problems with Wikipedia is that wikicentric nerdery often takes precedence over factual accuracy, and their "biographies of living persons" policy means that pages such as Lucy's are especially subject to that problem. Lucy's in particular, in fact, as it has "curators" who know zip about Lucy but are fanatical about enforcing wikicentric nerdiness. Even edits by Girl Management have been deleted by some idiot for stupid wikinerd reasons. Thanks to this sort of rubbish, Lucy's wikipedia page is a significantly less reliable source of information than this forum is Smile

Reading your post inspired me to poke through the page's edit history, and it turns out that that "former model turned actress" phrase was inserted by someone who basically doesn't know what he's talking about (he also changed Lucy's hometown from Winchester to Croydon Silly) purely because he considered it more fitting from a wikinerd viewpoint. He didn't have any actual information that said it was so, he just thought it would make the page look better. Someone else then changed it to "model and actress" (without the "former") with the comment that "Lucy is still a model", but again without adducing any evidence.
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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:51 am    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


Pigeon wrote:


I think this pretty much covers it. Lack of momentum and mismanagement. Nearly all of Lucy's career has been dependent on the Daily Star and Nuts handing her regular work on a plate, with anything outside that coming as a bonus. With the Daily Star having dropped her and then a few years later Nuts going down the tubes, any kind of regular work has dried up.

Of course there are plenty of other models who (a) used to appear frequently in the Daily Star and don't any more, and (b) used to appear frequently in Nuts and have been left in the lurch by its demise. But they have kept going by various means, including by moving to or increasing their involvement with the alternatives - ie. the Sun and Zoo. If these less popular models can keep going then certainly Lucy, as the top of the class, can. But unlike the majority of her career to date, it will not happen without at least a modicum of effort.

And that seems to me the nub of the problem. Girl Management can't be bothered to make the effort to promote Lucy and put her forward. As Neon before them also couldn't be bothered. Contrast with her first year or so when IMM did make the effort and she appeared in all sorts of places. If it was possible back then when she was new and little known, it is far more possible now - if only her lazy-ass management would pull their thumbs out of their bums. Similarly Lucy herself doesn't seem to be making any effort.

Same with the acting. She has had a couple of minor parts handed to her on a plate because Jonathan Sothcott is mates with Adam Sutherland, but Sothcott seems to be heading in a direction now that probably means fewer such parts are available, and to obtain anything more requires effort which is not forthcoming.

Pricing herself out of the market is again something that has been of increasing concern for some years and yet remained unaddressed by management.

My major concern is that it all seems to have petered out without Lucy having put enough together from it to gain the freedom to live the rest of her life with such a lack of effort. The situation is not irretrievable - yet - but it will be before too much longer, as Lucy's name in glamour modelling is by far her most significant asset. Since she is only about a quarter of the way through the period of her life between school and pension, the failure of her and of those who are paid to promote her to put in a little effort now will cost her a heck of a lot more effort in the future, and the whole business seems most irreponsibly shortsighted.


Haven't the two of us been saying this for quite sometime Pigeon.

As I've said before. Kelly Brook seems to be getting bigger and better with age. Yet Lucy is getting smaller and disappearing with age. It's so sad for a model who could have gone on to so much and been the biggest there ever will be Cry
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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:09 am    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


Has she been to an escort service since a few years ago?
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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:14 pm    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


Poggy wrote:
Haven't the two of us been saying this for quite sometime Pigeon.


Yes

hotshot wrote:
Has she been to an escort service since a few years ago?


No, and not ever either.
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is Lucy quiting?Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:45 pm    Subject: is Lucy quiting? Reply with quote


Ah well...

Whatever happens we do have "The Seventeenth Kind" and "Age of Kill" to look forward to at least Wink
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